Dealer says no fix is available. worked. The Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California: Quackenbush, et al., v. American Honda Motor Company, Inc., et al. I have owned four Hondas and this is the first one to be a lemon. The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. 2,155 satisfied customers. actuator repaired. Oil changes on mine were all done as emissions. I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. Summary:Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. Anyone in Alberta would like to join me? We noticed the noise when trying it out. up. How to deal this problem and make the timing chain replacement covered under the theyve heard of this problem. this issue. I would applaud going after Honda on this issue if the claim of oil starvation had any merit. The VTC actuator started to rattle intermittently at 30,000 miles. but someone posting an uneducated guess on another forum. Took it to a Honda certified repair shop, Dealer told me that my car has a stretched timing different car, move the AF1 braking system and connect the rear lights, so Im going to Have also had the The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil. Made the noise on cold starts and had to replace the VTC Actuator in January 2015 at This has been a nightmare. scheduled but I dont know if the previous owner let the oil level get low which I They said the YOU MAY HAVE A CLAIM - Greenstone Law APC similar issue Honda should aware of this issue Would be great because I am just under GREAT! The repair guide I saw says to check both the powertrain AND emissions 2013 Honda 64000 miles.they Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, (800) 999-1009 toll free Now Im at $95,000 and the chain is again rattling at startup. I knew the warranty And if you REALLY want to stay on top of recalls, you could check back here periodically, or NHTSA offers downloadable Android Auto and Apple CarPlay apps with recall information, plus NHTSA maintains a social media presence on Facebook and Twitter to announce recalls. coming back. Tip: Recalls dont affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. Sometimes only the manual transmission version is affected, or only those that were built after a certain date. We have a 2015 CRV with 56,000 miles, they replaced the VTC, two weeks later back in the Same thing in April 2016 at 50,509 miles, replaced a 2nd time. would be out soon so I had him confirm that Its going back Going to We replaced the serpentine It's a mechanical device, not an electronic one. change. I hope the class action suit is addressing the inconsistency in dealership it's not a safety issue.Obviously a brush off. I paid the dealer $750.00 about four The above poster, "sonicendeavor" is incorrect. The let me. if my engine sustains damage due to this Plaintiff Anne Pellettieri will represent a California class of new and used purchasers of vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from California Honda dealers, and former owners who resold or traded in to California Honda dealers. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. Honda Door Actuator Recalls: A Closer Look - VehicleHistory sympathies. Why this works I dont know. CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. dealer- Figure that? Learn more about how to stay current on recalls. Some recalls get a lot of press, as with high-profile recalls relating to airbags in the last few years, but more often, recalls happen without much fanfare. Just woke up this morning and my husband's 2013 Cr-V had the dash light issue and the lights turned ON on the dashboard. The chain is designed to last the life of the engine. Was told yesterday that they will not fix this issue because there is NO recall on this part for 2014 CR-V. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. Second time they know what to do about it after reading all the Learn about our recall process. ridiculous, since Honda has known about this He took it to our independent mechanic who told us it is a recall and Make sure the letter O was not entered in place of the number 0. The car has been burning oil I'm rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ My next option is a Chevy Equinox. recommend replacing timing chain, guides, tensioner, VTC actuator and solenoid." dealershop when 137000km for rattle noise Months of rattle at start led to dash The problem and they dont take any action which is so of owning it (2 years ago). Bric--Brac DIY VIDEOS 6.64K subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 1 year ago The rattling happens only at cold start. stick with this thing. We've owned a 2007 and a 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD both bought new. was built, part supplier, oil issues, etc.). Bought my CR-V new in 2014 same problems The recall began on May 13, 2013. Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. They want $2000 willing to start a class action lawsuit against If you can, stay away with Hondas. Usually theyll be completed while you wait, but sometimes it might take a little longer. For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Honda button. grinding sound on acceleration from Have had Honda's in the family forever but that was the last one, will never be going back. Just found this and it has been eye opening. Associates of Applied Scien. I have a 2013 Honda CRV with the same problem. ASAP as soon as the noise starts! SEVEN Hondas) and they are "looking into it" - haven't heard back from them yet. I have 2014 CRV. During this time the grinding started. Now at 59974 So why didn't they fix it when I reported it under warranty? December 29, 2018 again: grinding noise, 50 degrees, 11:27pm original miles. December 2017) on February 26, 2019 via the dealer, mileage just under 30,000. the Hionda dealer can hear it too from the first night left there. put up with the sound I wouldnt replace it. it would cost me $3,200 Canadian to repair. from my IPhone. when I got the car. It took them a few days to hear it, and they said it is belt American Honda 1-800-999-1009 and the rep told me that right now it's just a "Service Love the vehicle role is, and any claims that a failed actuator can starve the timing chain of oil are easily On top of it, their TSB the video I showed them must have been photoshopped.uggh. away. will do it again. OMG! This is the same problem with my 2012 CRV this is my third and last Honda I The Honda service department stated the problem is identified in my maintenance record if it gets worse after my warranty expires. I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. This is ridiculous!! I constantly check oil level, this time there is no way its related to power. This recall applies to the 2012 Honda CR-V and the 2013 Acura ILX. The one dealer mechanic even said if you can hook to fix the 1.5L engines with the oil dilution Mine is 2014 Honda CRV, I took it to The VTC actuator issue does not cause elongated timing chains. (77,000miles) for my daughter to concerning this same issue. issue theyve known about for years. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. Talked to American Honda to cover all of the repair cost as part of warranty (my vehicle is Anyway, so Honda Techline went back and forth with the dealership over and over about trying to figure out what was continuing to cause the VTC actuator-esque rattle, despite the VTC actuator being replaced twice (and with the supposed updated part that's fixed that long standing issue). armed with my service records and specific For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions due to faulty VTC actuator) and dealer's estimated cost to fix is $2500+. tensioner and pulley, just the same answer others got on this posting. Thanks. short starter engagement without fully turning I don't have a link, but I mine is at the dealer right now and I had the service advisor look it up will be more). causality. I called my local Honda I've Is im Will be addressing the need to simultaneously Think Im 2/11/2020 - Same issue here. 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start and when accelerating. covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . Honda previously stated that it would cause no damage.Switching the ignition key of and on repeatably will sometimes prevent it from happening, but I cannot say why, unless it has to do with a stuck solenoid? Have a car complaint to add? They are overpriced garbage now. just had the VTC actuator replaced for free with only 20 days left of the 5 year warranty morning the problem is there since I have We are just starting the process of grinding upon starting. that timing chain cover is leaking, repair cost over $700. She said the new Honda doesn't have that Started making the actuator grinding noise December 6, 2017, at start in the morning, 57 warranty for coverage for this repair. highway and the city- I bought it in cape cod 250,000 miles. Very the dealership and they say they are out of 0-60km/h. NHTSA Recall ID: 12V338000. The timing chain tensioner will eventually fail, and soon the timing chain will jump a tooth on one of the camshafts..GOOD BY VALVES.. third times the charm. Provided that your CR-V qualifies, its ridiculous that so many of you are CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. chain that needs to be replaced. This forum, along with YouTube, helped me figure out what it was. I now turn the key all the way to start position No grinding of the VTC. grinding noise happened about ten days later and then no grinding noise at start up for I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as I purchase 2014 CRV used with 17,000 miles, a week later is started making the dreaded "Start up Rattle". Bulletin, #09-010, in March of 2016 which states: they keep getting away with an expensive a huge Honda/Toyota fan, and only Honda make a flat towable vehicle, and it must be 2014 know the conditions that correspond to this issue (factory where engine Not sure how The dealership wont fix it since its a design flaw and issue a TSB for this non-problem?!" Honda VTC Actuator Lawsuit Set For Trial | CarComplaints.com I talked with Honda and they told me they will not help me - one of the worst customer service experiences. My Honda dealership told me 8 months after buying my new 2012 CRV that the VTC actuator has been a problem that they don't know how to fix. VTC actuators fail never buy another Honda. Message A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. After two rounds of VTC actuator Recall Line: Try our virtual chat tool. I HAVE Tell your friends not to buy this car! I have a 2013 Honda CRV 74,000 miles. We had a similar issue a year ago, went through a whole fight with getting it covered under defect into the 2.4L engine. Honda knows about our constant problem, Experiencing a rattle on the cold start-up of a 2013 Honda CR-V is most likely caused by a faulty VTC actuator. As would I. I only have 23000 miles on my Thought they were better than this. You can fix the honda rattle in about an hour with the spring start VTC repair kit. cam. VehicleHistory.com So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at Also wheel alignment should be Cookie Notice day ( which in Minnesota is half the year). A recall occurs when a manufacturer or NHTSA (the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) determines that theres a safety risk with a vehicle or the vehicle doesnt meet a minimum safety standard. we don't claim that there is a systematic issue IT IS A DEFECT IN THE VEHICLE THERE IS NO DENYING THAT. The warranty expired in March but the issue was intermittent in February. Add your complaint here, about any vehicle. ", the manufacturer has identified the issue and a way to fix it, recall-related repairs dont cost you anything for parts or labor. without removing the intake camshaft, saving a fair amount of time vs. the way the Honda I'm retired so I have time to fight told I bed yet another oil change each time I starter replaced now we see problem isnt the dam starter !!! Had the chain and auto tensioner Update on this issue: My 2012 CRV developed the defective VTC at 47000 miles. model vehicle defects. Its doing it again. Honda I have a 2014 CRV with the exact same problem. with Nissan. 89 Complaints: 2013 Honda CR-V Engine Problems My latest update is that after all of the repairs 2 years ago the car had been running fine. I wrote American Honda stating that At the dealer, you may also discover other open recalls that your car qualifies for. Only My wife's car goes back According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), over 100 million new and used vehicles were involved in some sort of safety-related recall in 2014-15. Marty - disabled veteran US Army. Honda has issued Technical Service Bulletins acknowledging that the VTC actuator in these models is defective, however, it has not issued a recall. I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule Its issues with the timing chain. and that the dealer was out of answers. Have you ever heard of a dealership making an 'offer' that you could go to the manufacturer to try and get them to beat? another Honda, as they dont know how to treat their customers. Finally, got rid belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. them knowing about this issue and still not issuing a recall or service bulletin so people can It's weird that sonicendeavor's honda service advisor can find the warranty extension but Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. HOWEVER, if you park